Sooo...this is not an NSFW VN ? cuz MC is Asexual In the shower scene, I think the MC is used to do it for his bf that he didn't realize how awkward this is or just bad writing, idk. But I still like the VN overall
Ace here. I think since he doesn't realize how awkward it is for Cooper because for him it isn't. It's just making sure a fellow male doesn't smell bad after the bath.
Liked this new update for the most part and I don't want to be rude but it did have a very uncomfortable and consent violating section that you try to play off as cute.
Spoilers..
The scene in question is the bath scene and there are a lot of problems with it. First, you reveal Cyrus is asexual but then you use his asexuality as a "Strip and let me touch you naked, I'm asex so it doesn't mean anything lol" type of moment. Not only does this feel like a rather creepy excuse to touch someone naked, but you even go out of your way to show Cooper's hesitancy.
Cooper repeatedly tries to make excuses to get out of this scenario, even wanting to change away from Cyrus's sight, but you make Cyrus keep insisting on it. If this scenario was about Cooper refusing to eat his vegetables that would be fine, but Cyrus incessantly demanding that Cooper get naked right in front of him?
No, that isn't cute. At no point during the conversation does Cyrus realize that even if he is asexual, that doesn't mean everyone around him is ok with him seeing their genitals. It comes off that you don't really care about Cooper's consent and clear discomfort with the situation, and then you try to fix it in the end by having Cooper act like nothing was wrong and he is ok with this when not even 10 seconds ago he was giving any excuse to avoid this and not change naked in front of Cyrus.
Even if Cooper were fine with the situation from the beginning, why would you have Cyrus trying to spring this situation as a "surprise" in the bathroom.
Again, I still like this project but that scene really rubbed me the wrong way. Perhaps instead the scene could play out as:
Cyrus notices smell -> Tells Cooper to take a shower -> Cooper throws a fuss, says he has trouble reaching certain areas -> Cyrus politely offers to help, doesn't act pushy -> Cooper considers it, then accepts of his own will -> Rest of scene plays normally.
That way you can still have the cute bath picture moment without making the scene feel uncomfortable.
I think you're reading a bit too into this, when I first read this, I hadn't played through the scene yet and it got me really worked up. For one, Cooper only asked Cyrus to turn around because he felt uncomfortable changing in front of someone he didn't know (given kind of weird that you don't mind being naked in front of someone you don't know but honestly, people be weird like that, as in they are comfortable with their own body enough to not care). For two, from the transition we can extrapolate that a conversation was had about it, we just got to see the tail end of it, so Copper had plenty of opportunities to flat out say no to Cyrus's assistance. For three, his 'reluctance' is more like a kid begrudgingly doing the homework that isn't graded, he doesn't see the point to a bath because it doesn't bother him.
Maybe i don't remember it exactly but my problem with that scene was different. It felt too robotic. Like "Oh btw idc about your junk, i'm ace", "oh ok".
Like in real life that's not what happens.. Something like cooper joking he's just lying because he wants to see him naked is way more realistic.
It also confuses the audience a bit. In the same minute, we are told the mc is asexual, meaning we probably won't get lewd scenes because asexuality usually means you don't like sex, but in the same second we see cooper's junk.
It doesn't. Asexuality means you don't experience sexual attraction. Meaning, you don't get involuntary neurochemical signals labelled as sexual desire in response to stimuli. Some asexual people absolutely do enjoy sex, others don't. And some allosexual people don't enjoy sex.
Well yes, but there are several kinds of attraction, sexual attraction being the kind that asexual people don't experience. And he doesn't even necessarily need to find Cooper attractive to enjoy sex with him.
just do what i do, panic about life for around 2 weeks at the start of the month, realize life exists and then you only gotta wait like one week or a week and a couple days!
the ending just confused the hell out of me...omg. this was actually a painful cliffhanger. is cyrus a whole different person? if not then what happened to his hair etc?
Well I think it might be a parellel world, which means HUMAN and CYRUS are two different but somehow relative person. This makes them exchange their souls through some method such as a short sleep.
Someone in the discord said their issue (same as yours) was due to not having enough space on their phone. Perhaps it's the same for you? Once they freed up some space it downloaded and played just fine.
So excited to see where this story goes! Love the world building! Given the whole two separate dimensions(?)/timelines(?)/realities(?), I hope the ending won't be too sad! What are The Flowers (tm)? And will we Remember them? I can't wait to find out :)
Holy shit, I cannot recommend this game enough, the dialogue, art, pacing, writing!??!?! I'd give it ten stars if I could, everything about this seems so sleek and professional. Even though it's only an early build, I feel like this VN could really rival the works of even ECHO.
Very well considering that I've been thrown for a loop ending up just as confused as the Main Character for a while. I enjoyed this quite a bit for the most part that I was able to get.
ok im starting it now , ill just say this : the animation at the start is amazing
edit: omg wait the human is cute edit 2: i love it so much omg?? the interactions are so adorable and cooper expressions was beyond funny . the art in this game is fantastic . i cant wait for more !!!! definitely becoming a patreon.
there isn't a lot to judge yet (even if it's pretty big for a first build) but I loved it and I absolutely adore your writing style oh and cooper... I think I have a new crush now
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¿ contiene NSFW ?
yes , says it does at the top.
18 + doesnt mean that game has nsfw content
for example Echo is totally 18 + game and has sex scenes , however it is not nsfw vn because there is zero naked spirit
SPOILER Build3:
Sooo...this is not an NSFW VN ? cuz MC is Asexual
In the shower scene, I think the MC is used to do it for his bf that he didn't realize how awkward this is or just bad writing, idk. But I still like the VN overall
Ace here. I think since he doesn't realize how awkward it is for Cooper because for him it isn't. It's just making sure a fellow male doesn't smell bad after the bath.
I thought that too and he has amnesia so it could somehow affect him a bit
I really love this can't wait for the next update
this is the first human MC design I like
Liked this new update for the most part and I don't want to be rude but it did have a very uncomfortable and consent violating section that you try to play off as cute.
Spoilers..
The scene in question is the bath scene and there are a lot of problems with it. First, you reveal Cyrus is asexual but then you use his asexuality as a "Strip and let me touch you naked, I'm asex so it doesn't mean anything lol" type of moment. Not only does this feel like a rather creepy excuse to touch someone naked, but you even go out of your way to show Cooper's hesitancy.
Cooper repeatedly tries to make excuses to get out of this scenario, even wanting to change away from Cyrus's sight, but you make Cyrus keep insisting on it. If this scenario was about Cooper refusing to eat his vegetables that would be fine, but Cyrus incessantly demanding that Cooper get naked right in front of him?
No, that isn't cute. At no point during the conversation does Cyrus realize that even if he is asexual, that doesn't mean everyone around him is ok with him seeing their genitals. It comes off that you don't really care about Cooper's consent and clear discomfort with the situation, and then you try to fix it in the end by having Cooper act like nothing was wrong and he is ok with this when not even 10 seconds ago he was giving any excuse to avoid this and not change naked in front of Cyrus.
Even if Cooper were fine with the situation from the beginning, why would you have Cyrus trying to spring this situation as a "surprise" in the bathroom.
Again, I still like this project but that scene really rubbed me the wrong way. Perhaps instead the scene could play out as:
Cyrus notices smell -> Tells Cooper to take a shower -> Cooper throws a fuss, says he has trouble reaching certain areas -> Cyrus politely offers to help, doesn't act pushy -> Cooper considers it, then accepts of his own will -> Rest of scene plays normally.
That way you can still have the cute bath picture moment without making the scene feel uncomfortable.
I didn't know Cyrus could preform mitosis!
I think you're reading a bit too into this, when I first read this, I hadn't played through the scene yet and it got me really worked up. For one, Cooper only asked Cyrus to turn around because he felt uncomfortable changing in front of someone he didn't know (given kind of weird that you don't mind being naked in front of someone you don't know but honestly, people be weird like that, as in they are comfortable with their own body enough to not care). For two, from the transition we can extrapolate that a conversation was had about it, we just got to see the tail end of it, so Copper had plenty of opportunities to flat out say no to Cyrus's assistance. For three, his 'reluctance' is more like a kid begrudgingly doing the homework that isn't graded, he doesn't see the point to a bath because it doesn't bother him.
I agree with you, I liked the update very much, but that specific part felt really wrong
Maybe i don't remember it exactly but my problem with that scene was different. It felt too robotic. Like "Oh btw idc about your junk, i'm ace", "oh ok".
Like in real life that's not what happens.. Something like cooper joking he's just lying because he wants to see him naked is way more realistic.
It also confuses the audience a bit. In the same minute, we are told the mc is asexual, meaning we probably won't get lewd scenes because asexuality usually means you don't like sex, but in the same second we see cooper's junk.
So like.. a bit confusing.
"asexuality usually means you don't like sex"
It doesn't. Asexuality means you don't experience sexual attraction. Meaning, you don't get involuntary neurochemical signals labelled as sexual desire in response to stimuli. Some asexual people absolutely do enjoy sex, others don't. And some allosexual people don't enjoy sex.
So you're saying he could find coop attractive and have sex with him for the purpose of uhh.. bodily pleasure. Without any horniness that people feel?
I think i can somewhat grasp the idea..
Well yes, but there are several kinds of attraction, sexual attraction being the kind that asexual people don't experience. And he doesn't even necessarily need to find Cooper attractive to enjoy sex with him.
help i didnt expect for you to show us 'it' just like that , im so in love with Cooper ...
Sorry Damion he stole my heart.
When is the next update ???
Build 3 came out a little bit ago. 🙂🙂
ik i just played it but i mean build 4 ?
The new update literally just came out, you want another new update??
im asking if theres gonna be a new update :)
Ofcourse there will be a new update, will probably release next month. If you want to play the Build 4, become a patron.
Bruh you mental
What this picture doesn't show you is that Cooper is packing. 😉😉😎😎
Copper is such a personality, I can't wait to see more of 'em!
LOVE YA！！！！！
Curses!! Now I have to wait ANOTHER month. I am so looking forward to next update. 🙂🙂
just do what i do, panic about life for around 2 weeks at the start of the month, realize life exists and then you only gotta wait like one week or a week and a couple days!
the ending just confused the hell out of me...omg. this was actually a painful cliffhanger. is cyrus a whole different person? if not then what happened to his hair etc?
Well I think it might be a parellel world, which means HUMAN and CYRUS are two different but somehow relative person. This makes them exchange their souls through some method such as a short sleep.
yea after having a headache while thinking about what it could be i thought that it could be that too.
it makes a lot of sense.
LOL,well just go ahead and wait for the continual story--i believe our author won't let us down cuz this might be a crux play!!!hahahaha
He could also just be having a dream of his past but both are possibilities
im playing through right now and the human convincing himself that him cleaning is not helping Cooper is literally what i would do too.
It won't let me download build 2 of android after I press install it says "app not installed"
https://linksharing.samsungcloud.com/5oB3ZbIY8HZh
Someone in the discord said their issue (same as yours) was due to not having enough space on their phone. Perhaps it's the same for you? Once they freed up some space it downloaded and played just fine.
I have enough space on my phone idk why it won't install
What are you deeming as "enough" space?
I have 53 out if 64 GB
Hmm! That is enough space! Do you have the first build downloaded? It might help to delete that and then attempt to download the second.
I love this, I’m living for the mystery
this update made me love cooper instantly though
Wooo a new update :D and I love it, I really like the story so far. can't wait to see where it goes :D
woo woo i love this bday present
So excited to see where this story goes! Love the world building! Given the whole two separate dimensions(?)/timelines(?)/realities(?), I hope the ending won't be too sad! What are The Flowers (tm)? And will we Remember them? I can't wait to find out :)
For all of our amazing fans waiting: We're hoping to update at 3pm EST (UTC-4) on the 7th. That means just about 2 hours left! <3
My pc picked the perfect date to break, so I'll have to wait a few days anyway lol.
I can't do this Novel justice it's really hitting all of my interests' in the right ways. I will keep it simple and say it is really good. 😅😅🙂🙂
If it gets updated today that would be amazing, because this is one of my favorite visual novels and it's my birthday.
same but its tomorrow for me, happy bday!
♪Happy birthday to you♪
Why hasn't it been updated！！！
It's only 2 AM, give it some time
I'm Chinese forget there is a time difference😂
Chinese too and waiting till the time we almost pass the 7th (sad face
my schedule today:
1) go to this page
2) press crtl+r
3) if no new build, repeat 2)
else: 4) download the new build and start playing
Only four days now until the update if I'm not mistaken.
RtF's release schedule is tentatively the first Saturday of every month. So it won't be updated until the 7th, if all goes smoothly.
Thank you for correcting me.
Holy shit, I cannot recommend this game enough, the dialogue, art, pacing, writing!??!?! I'd give it ten stars if I could, everything about this seems so sleek and professional. Even though it's only an early build, I feel like this VN could really rival the works of even ECHO.
Overall so far a wonderfully great story and interested to see where things go, can't update fast enough! Looking forward to your future work.
Yes
Yayayayyaayayayayayaayayayayayayayayayayayayayayayayay
...it'll be worth it..it'll be worth it..waiting for the update will be worth it..
So I look at the pics at the top and I dont see the last one in the current update just me?
I think it's for the the next build...I think Patrons already have that one tho
I REALLY like this story….I’m really excited for more! Also, will there be a schedule for updates or will they come out when they come out?
Welp I saw the Twitter page so never mind that question😅
Does this game gay?
protagonist is gae so it is gae
It does gay
Very well considering that I've been thrown for a loop ending up just as confused as the Main Character for a while. I enjoyed this quite a bit for the most part that I was able to get.
Cool new VN and i really love it thank you creator!
Adding Cooper to my (massive) simp list
Same but maybe not as massive of a list
I will write down everyone person on my simp list
DONT TEMPT ME
I meant that my list probably wasn’t as big as yours imsorrydonthurtme
ok :D
Even from just the first update I can tell this is right up my alley (ba-dum-ch)
NO! BAD! No dad jokes
Even if it was a good one
Very interesting premise! Looking forward to seeing how this goes!
ok im starting it now , ill just say this : the animation at the start is amazing
edit: omg wait the human is cute
edit 2: i love it so much omg?? the interactions are so adorable and cooper expressions was beyond funny . the art in this game is fantastic . i cant wait for more !!!! definitely becoming a patreon.
just from looking at the wolf from the game homepage picture i can tell im going to love it
there isn't a lot to judge yet (even if it's pretty big for a first build) but I loved it and I absolutely adore your writing style oh and cooper... I think I have a new crush now